Well, that was interesting! Given that I’ve only reinvigorated this blog a few days ago, I didn’t expect my little SOAP-dialog post to get much play. However, not a few members of the digirati noticed, and the next thing you know I’ve been memed. There’s all sorts of interesting things to say about the traffic and where it’s coming from, but what stands out is the conversation. Aggregating the hundreds of comments, referencing posts, blurbs found on reddit and del.icio.us, etc., there was not a single dissenting voice! Bill de hÓra’s gone so far as to declare victory in The War on Error.
But I wonder if there might be a bit of an echo chamber effect going on. After all, some WS-Supporter must be actively blogging. So, here’s my question to you: where are the WS-Proponents? I’ve got Don Box and Anne Thomas Manes covered. Any other pointers?
Oh, and thanks for all the wonderful feedback.
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Not so much dissention as some wisdom about the real complexity of the world, and how spastic evolution occurs in software, where the good is thrown out with the bad. From the comments to S stands for Simple:
http://wanderingbarque.com/nonintersecting/2006/11/15/the-s-stands-for-simple/#comment-2081
If only we could have software evolve like organisms, where vestigial organisms actually disappear after some generations, but the good is kept. Instead we get SOAP evolution (and coming soon Binary-XML…) where we start from scratch with something so simple it can’t live in the wild. We put it on ventilators, and then see if we can build ventilators onto the poor creature, never realizing that the creature could never lift ventilators anyway. Oh, and then we attempt to optimize the ventilators (analogy to binary-XML?)…
Perhaps one day someone will actually start from scratch with the right abstraction (sweet spot) in this area, avoiding oversimplification so that it really solves the problems it needs to, but at teh same time not exposing undue complexity to those that don’t need it.
Great post!
Cheers
By “covered” do you mean Don has posted his views somewhere or are you just marking him as a WS-Proponent? To the best of my knowledge, yes, he was among the founding fathers of SOAP but it has been quite hard to put him squarely in the WS-Proponent camp.
we need another SellsCon (http://www.sellsbrothers.com/conference/) to find out where Don stands these days. The last I heard is this: http://blogs.msdn.com/dareobasanjo/archive/2004/10/26/247825.aspx
Have you by any chance bumped into this?
http://hyperthink.net/blog/CommentView,guid,ce8a55da-06c7-48bf-952a-7869625710f8.aspx
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