Oh man, what I wouldn’t give to attend this W3C Workshop. Nick Gall’s position paper is incendiary (via Paul):
It is my position that the W3C should extricate itself from further direct work on SOAP, WDSL, or any other WS-* specifications and redirect its resources into evangelizing and standardizing identifiers, formats, and protocols that exemplify Web architectural principles.
Wow. And then there’s Paul’s paper (who will actually be able to present):
We believe that rather than impose Web architecture on Web services, the W3C should strongly highlight the distinction between “Web Services” and “The Web” which whilst not being very compatible, may continue to be complementary.
So, who can get me in?
Paul Downey | 26-Jan-07 at 1:25 pm | Permalink
Pete, I think there are still some places, so ping the Chairs or Philippe the team contact - you may be asked to submit a short paper to attend, though it’s unlikely (now) you’d be invited to present, there is plenty of time for discussion and given the purpose of such workshops is to provide information to guide the future direction of the W3C, it may have profound effect.
Pragmatic Dictator » Blog Archive » Nick Gall wades into the WS-* debate | 28-Jan-07 at 9:26 am | Permalink
[…] Nick Gall (Gartner) has published a position paper on WS-* and The Web. This statement has drawn quite a lot of attention: […]
eric newcomer | 28-Jan-07 at 12:44 pm | Permalink
Pete - I have been blogging and posting (to the Yahoo SOA group) about this for about a year, during the time I’ve been pushing for the W3C to take a look at what, if anything, needs to be done to make the “Web of services” as successful as the “Web of documents” (as they put it).
Mark Baker also blogged about it I believe.
I am sorry you missed the deadline for submitting a paper - in fact we have also heard from one other person who said they would have submitted something if they’d known about the workshop. So maybe we were not doing enough to promote this.
Unfortunately we did not have enough space to allow everyone to present, but everyone whose paper was accepted (including Nick) is invited to attend and participate. Mark Baker’s paper is similar to Nick’s so the topic will definitely be included.
The proceedings will be made public as well. And feel free to contact me with any suggestions or topics you’d like to have included in the discussion.
Eric Newcomer's Weblog | 28-Jan-07 at 3:25 pm | Permalink
Web of Services Workshop program…
Last week Ken Laskey, Philippe LeHegaret and I published the program for the upcoming Web of Services Workshop, sponsored by W3C and hosted by Mitre. After a bit more than a year working toward this, and worrying that we wouldn’t receive enough papers…
Pete | 28-Jan-07 at 7:28 pm | Permalink
Eric: I’m sure you’ve done everything necessary to promote this workshop. I’ve only been an active particpant in this debate for the past few months, and this slid past me.
Are you saying, though, that you’re sold out or that there’s just no more speaking slots? If you’re sold out, let me know if you and the others are getting together for drinks or dinner afterwards I live just 30 minutes away and would love to put faces to names.
Eric Newcomer | 29-Jan-07 at 6:33 am | Permalink
Pete,
The way W3C workshops work is that you have to submit a paper to attend. And then actually the program committee has to accept the paper. But since you live so close it would be a shame if we couldn’t manage to connect you somehow. You can reach me at eric.newcomer at iona.com.